{"id":12364,"date":"2020-07-16T20:26:38","date_gmt":"2020-07-16T20:26:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/amabhungane.org\/?post_type=stories&#038;p=12364"},"modified":"2024-09-20T12:11:57","modified_gmt":"2024-09-20T12:11:57","slug":"200717premiers-ministers-guptas-the-mysterious-powers-of-vbs-fixer-danny-msiza","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/further.co.za\/amabwp\/200717premiers-ministers-guptas-the-mysterious-powers-of-vbs-fixer-danny-msiza\/","title":{"rendered":"Premiers, ministers, Guptas: the mysterious powers of VBS fixer Danny Msiza"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Danny Msiza\u2019s fingerprints are all over the VBS scandal. As one of the ANC\u2019s top six office bearers in Limpopo his role was allegedly to lean on municipal officials in order to make them channel their budgets towards the bank.<\/p>\n<p>This has been amply <a href=\"https:\/\/amabhungane.org\/stories\/200624-next-in-line-vbss-municipal-bribery-network\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">documented<\/a> by amaBhungane and others, but the extent of the political power that allowed him to do this is less obvious.<\/p>\n<p>Msiza stepped aside as ANC Limpopo treasurer in December 2018 after an instruction from the ANC\u2019s integrity committee. After a year and a half in the wilderness the ruling party has reinstated him, raising the question: how powerful is Msiza really?<\/p>\n<p>Reams of evidence garnered in advocate Terry Motau\u2019s 2018 investigation on behalf of the Reserve Bank paint a picture of an immensely influential political operative. Some of it has been made public through court cases and some is still confidential, but in amaBhungane\u2019s possession.<\/p>\n<p>The intermediary between VBS executives and Msiza was Kabelo Matsepe, at the time a 25-year-old businessman who had been \u201cadopted\u201d by Msiza \u2013 according to former VBS chief executive Andile Ramavhunga in testimony before Motau.<\/p>\n<p>Msiza had earlier invested in an ambulance company Matsepe had set up called Bauba911.<\/p>\n<p>Matsepe, through a company called Moshate Investments, signed a business development agreement with VBS and seemingly billed the bank about R30-million in a year and a half starting mid-2016.<\/p>\n<p>Matsepe would not answer questions from amaBhungane this week. Msiza could not be reached by phone or message.<\/p>\n<p>Moshate Investments was the largest of up to eight intermediaries that earned \u201ccommissions\u201d from VBS for securing huge deposits from municipalities and some other public sector entities.<\/p>\n<p>There is ample evidence of Matsepe constantly calling on Msiza to make these deposits happen.<\/p>\n<p>There is also evidence of Moshate Investments subsequently paying money to Msiza, though Motau\u2019s investigation could only definitively pin down relatively small amounts like a R716\u00a0000 payment into Msiza\u2019s bond account at VBS.<\/p>\n<p>Msiza had gone to court to try and force the Reserve Bank\u2019s Prudential Authority to expunge any mention of him in the Great Bank Heist report. The case has been heard and judgement is expected before long.<\/p>\n<p>According to a \u201creasons and record of proceedings\u201d Motau filed in that case, Msiza received R1.5-million from Moshate on 17 January 2018 \u2013 the same day Moshate received R2-million from VBS.<\/p>\n<p>In court papers, Msiza has maintained that it is ridiculous to say he is the kingpin or that Matsepe worked for him when all the evidence shows Matsepe earned millions, but not he, Msiza.<\/p>\n<p>Matsepe\u2019s indiscreet WhatsApp messages with VBS executives are more often than not what implicate Msiza. Matsepe freely discussed Msiza\u2019s affairs and relayed messages between the provincial boss and the VBS crowd.<\/p>\n<p>That evidence, combined with testimony from VBS executives, paints a picture of a significant power brokerage. He was certainly central to the political glow and sense of protection the VBS conspirators believed they had.<\/p>\n<h5>Inside Information<\/h5>\n<p>In March 2017, Jacob Zuma did his infamous cabinet reshuffle where he kicked out Pravin Gordhan as finance minister, replacing him with Malusi Gigaba.<\/p>\n<p>The VBS crowd was seemingly very much in the loop at least a month before the announcement.<\/p>\n<p>In February 2017, VBS treasurer Phophi Mukhodobwane and his chair, Tshifhiwa Matodzi, exchanged messages about \u201cthe importance of\u201d \u00a0a new finance minister getting appointed. Gordhan was perceived as a problem.<\/p>\n<p>Mukhodobwane told investigators that there was a concern that Gordhan was an impediment to VBS getting money from the Public Investment Corporation.<\/p>\n<p>The transcript of Mukhodobwane\u2019s testimony shows he appeared to cite Msiza as the source of VBS\u2019s information about an imminent change of ministers.<\/p>\n<p>The PIC is meant to be independent, but nonetheless falls under the ministry of finance. By tradition, the deputy minister of finance became the chair of the PIC.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAt the time I was told there were talks about the possibility of Mr Sifiso Buthelezi becoming minister of finance and that could possibly work in our favour in terms of getting funding from the PIC,\u201d Mukhodobwane testified.<\/p>\n<p>Buthelezi did in fact become Gigaba\u2019s deputy and VBS would later try to appeal, unsuccessfully, to him when they ran into regulatory trouble.<\/p>\n<h5>Higher office<\/h5>\n<p>In February 2017, it appeared that Msiza himself was tipped for greater things.<\/p>\n<p>Matsepe was having a WhatsApp conversation with Palesa Makhubela, the chief financial officer of the Makhado municipality and, according to evidence produced by Motau, a recipient of VBS kickbacks in exchange for deposits.<\/p>\n<p>She is now employed by the Greater Tzaneen municipality but could not be reached to confirm the exchange with Matsepe.<\/p>\n<p>According to the WhatsApps, they argued a little about the commission she and two other officials were allegedly getting for a two-month deposit at VBS. Matsepe told her that Msiza said three of them must split it.<\/p>\n<p>Then came the kicker.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>MATSEPE: \u201cThe old man wants to make D a minister and D is refusing, it&#8217;s a bit of a nasty situation &#8230;. Yes we are pleading with him to take bra Stan and make him a Minister, it&#8217;s clear that D is going Chair the Province&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em>\u201cOld man\u201d was the nearly universal moniker for Zuma and from the context it is obvious that Matsepe was referring to the then-president, as only he could appoint ministers.<\/p>\n<p>Matsepe claimed to be in the know about Msiza being approached by Zuma to become a Cabinet minister. \u201cStan\u201d would almost certainly be a reference to Stan Mathabatha, the premier of Limpopo.<\/p>\n<p>Msiza was, at least in Matsepe\u2019s version, a contender for one of the top jobs available as an ANC cadre but wanted rather to stay in Limpopo.<\/p>\n<h5>The \u201cIndians\u201d<\/h5>\n<p>A year earlier, in 2016, the major South African banks had started cutting ties with the Gupta family, leaving them scrambling to find new bankers.<\/p>\n<p>For a short while in 2017 they found a home at VBS. It looks like Msiza and Matsepe played a role in brokering this lifebuoy.<\/p>\n<p>On 26 April 2017, Matsepe messaged a co-director at Moshate Investments:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>MATSEPE: \u201cThe Indians also just gave us 20% into a coal mine to thank us for our efforts in their bank issues\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>MATSEPE: \u201cMe being Me and Danny\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>RESPONSE: \u201cWowl That\u2019s great news. Congratulations\u201d<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There may conceivably have been other \u201cIndians\u201d who own coal mines and were in need of political intervention in their \u201cbanking issues\u201d at the exact same time as the Guptas, but it seems likelier that they were in fact talking about the then-president\u2019s friends.<\/p>\n<p>The Gupta family\u2019s coal mines Optimum and Koornfontein opened VBS bank accounts in early 2017 and their contract mining company Westdawn likewise banked through VBS.<\/p>\n<p>A forensic accountant\u2019s report produced for Motau showed that Westdawn moved R52-million through VBS in the brief period it banked there.<\/p>\n<p>After a few months however even VBS had to drop the infamous family.<\/p>\n<p>The Gupta name would pop up again \u2013 erroneously this time \u2013 a few months later in relation to VBS\u2019s greatest political problem: national treasury.<\/p>\n<h5>Lobbying treasury<\/h5>\n<p>On 15 August 2017, the municipal patronage system around VBS faced an existential threat. Treasury sent out an email to municipal managers and chief financial officers warning them that their deposits at the mutual bank \u201care not permitted\u201d and that any municipality with money at VBS \u201cmust review its investments to ensure compliance\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Matsepe and Ramavhunga exchanged messages later that day. Ramavhunga seemed to think it was some kind of political retaliation related to VBS\u2019s decision to follow other banks in dropping the Gupta family as clients.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>RAMAVHUNGA: &#8220;Is it not this Gupta thing?&#8221; <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>MATSEPE: &#8220;They don&#8217;t have such influence&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>RAMAVHUNGA: &#8220;<\/em><em> Eish, they are sending me the circular&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>RAMAVHUNGA: &#8220;<\/em><em> This thing is a problem. It went to all municipalities&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>MATSEPE: &#8220;<\/em><em> To buy time we will have to do an urgent court application&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The next day, Msiza\u2019s political clout was seemingly being called on and Matodzi, the chair of VBS, was also getting involved.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>MATSEPE: &#8220;<\/em><em> Evening TG [reference to treasurer general, Msiza\u2019s position] is checking if you are available around lunch time to deal with this national treasury thing&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>RAMAVHUNGA: &#8220;<\/em><em> Yes I am&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>RAMAVHUNGA: Chair has agreed&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>MATSEPE: &#8220;<\/em><em> Sure&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>MATSEPE: &#8220;<\/em><em> 13:00 lunch&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>RAMAVHUNGA: \u201cOkay, chairman has agreed\u2026<\/em><em> Let me know of the venue&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em>The following day things were escalated dramatically.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>MATSEPE: &#8220;<\/em><em> You have a meeting with the Deputy Minister of Finance on Sunday at 13:00&#8243;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>MATSEPE: \u201cYou will be going with Danny\u201d<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>According to Ramavhunga\u2019s testimony to Motau, the meeting with deputy minister Buthelezi never went ahead.<\/p>\n<p>And Buthelezi told amaBhungane by email: \u201cThe alleged request for such a meeting never reached me\u2026 I was never approached by Mr Msiza or VBS to provide any assistance\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHad such representations been made, I would have then referred correspondence\u00a0 to the DG [director-general].\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The problem with national treasury and the municipalities would plague VBS to the bitter end. The bank and its political patrons had to convince local governments to hand over hundreds of millions of rands even as treasury was telling them it contravened the Municipal Finance Management Act.<\/p>\n<h5>Supra<\/h5>\n<p>But other powerful ANC figures were also dangled before the VBS bosses.<\/p>\n<p>On 20 September 2017, Matsepe messaged Ramavhunga:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u201cDanny says you must call Supra and ask to meet. Supra will be around Johannesburg tomorrow. He says we must explain to him what is happening with this Treasury thing.\u201d<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u201cSupra\u201d would have been Supra Mahumapelo, then premier of North West.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhat was that all about?\u201d Ross Hutton, the main interrogator in Motau\u2019s investigation, later asked Ramavhunga, according to transcripts.<\/p>\n<p>Apparently VBS was branching out and looking for funding from the provincial sphere of government rather than local municipalities.<\/p>\n<p>The point of contact in North West had been provincial treasurer Ndlela Kunene but VBS was hitting another brick wall, Ramavhunga testified.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>RAMAVHUNGA: \u201cAt the time Ndlela Kunene had said he can\u2019t do the investment because they had sent a letter to Treasury to request permission if they could engage with us.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>MOTAU: \u201cAnd what did National Treasury say?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 MR RAMAVHUNGA: I don\u2019t think they responded at the time.\u201d<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><em>\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>MR HUTTON: \u201cSo what is the issue? Why is the Premier involved now?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>MR RAMAVHUNGA: \u201cAt that time Ndlela had submitted a letter to the National Treasury and it had not come back. I think that is what I needed to explain to the Premier.\u201d<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h5>Dondo<\/h5>\n<p>It is not known if Ramavhunga met Mahumapelo, but the matter was soon allegedly escalated from North West to national treasury.<\/p>\n<p>Less than a week later, on 26 September 2017, Matsepe reported back to Ramavhunga:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u00a0<\/em><em>\u201cKunene just gave me an update on his meeting with Dondo. All looking good. Can we meet today?\u201d<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u201cDondo\u201d is and was then the director general of national treasury, Dondo Mogajane.<\/p>\n<p>Kunene told amaBhungane he had only broached VBS with Mogojane as an aside.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u00a0have never\u00a0had a\u00a0meeting with the Director General on the VBS other than asking him whether VBS was approved in terms of Section 7 (2) of the PFMA.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But provincial deposits were a non-starter for the same reason as municipal deposits should have been. The PFMA restricts provinces to putting their deposits in registered banks, which excluded VBS.<\/p>\n<p>VBS\u2019s lobbying efforts would continue through the end of 2017 and into 2018. The possibility of a massive irregular R1 billion deposit from Prasa had arisen which would have saved VBS from imminent collapse. To get this money the political winds needed to blow in the right direction.<\/p>\n<p>Near the end of the year the ANC was preparing for its watershed elective conference where Cyril Ramaphosa would square off against Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma for the ANC presidency.<\/p>\n<h5>The TG<\/h5>\n<p>Msiza\u2019s connection to VBS was known all the way up to the ANC\u2019s treasurer-general at the time, Zweli Mkhize. On 12 December 2017, Msiza forwarded a message to Matsepe from someone at the ANC\u2019s business funding arm, the Progressive Business Forum:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Dear Danny. TG asked me to call you regarding Venda Bank and their participation at the conference. Tried calling you. Can you please phone me back urgently. This number or 0837996058&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em>Msiza added:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u00a0<\/em><em>\u201cTaking off.pls call number as per message &#8230; for VBS suite\u201d<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em>The number provided is for Daryl Swanepoel, the convenor of the Business Forum.<\/p>\n<p>VBS apparently sponsored a suite at the event for businesspeople that usually happens on the side-lines of ANC conferences. VBS also paid R703 000 to hire busses to take delegates to the conference.<\/p>\n<p>An ANC official sent the invoice to both VBS\u2019s Mukhodhobwane and Msiza.<\/p>\n<p>VBS had however thrown in its lot with the losing side.<\/p>\n<p>The electoral conference was held on 19 December and Ramaphosa narrowly defeated Dlamini-Zuma to become ANC president and, automatically, the president of South Africa.<\/p>\n<p>The political support for the Prasa deal \u201cevaporated\u201d, Mukhodobwane later told Motau.<\/p>\n<p>The go-between with Prasa was Bhekwayinkosi Gift Manyanga whose company Bhekwam Holdings signed a \u201cConsultancy Agreement\u201d with VBS in March 2017.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cManyanga himself told me that the outcome of the December elections was unexpected, and that\u2019s why it didn\u2019t happen,\u201d Mukhodhobwane claimed.<\/p>\n<p>Manyanga now denies this: \u201cI never said anything to Phophi regarding this transaction,\u201dhe told amaBhungane. \u201cThe PRASA transaction was not depended on the conference.\u201d<\/p>\n<h5>Gigaba<\/h5>\n<p>The VBS gang would try to make one last desperate political appeal, apparently once more using the power of Msiza\u2019s network.<\/p>\n<p>At the end of January Ramavhunga, Mukhodobwane and Matsepe flew to Davos to attend the World Economic Forum.<\/p>\n<p>According to Ramavhunga the point of the trip was to meet Malusi Gigaba, the man Zuma had controversially appointed as finance minister the previous year.<\/p>\n<p><i><em>If you like this story, why not help us do more? Become an amaBhungane supporter <a href=\"https:\/\/amabhungane.org\/be-an-amab-supporter\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">here<\/a>.<\/em><\/i><\/p>\n<p>He also wanted to meet Paul Mashatile, the newly elected treasurer of the ANC. Matsepe had a \u201crelationship\u201d with both men, Ramavhunga told Motau. As was seemingly always the case however Matsepe\u2019s relationships were most likely really Msiza\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>It is not clear whether either meeting happened.<\/p>\n<p>Whatever traction VBS might have hoped to get out of meeting Gigaba would have been short-lived anyway. Gigaba was fired the next month as part of Ramaphosa\u2019s overhaul of the Zuma cabinet he inherited.<\/p>\n<p>Two months later VBS was toast.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>Also read:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/amabhungane.org\/stories\/200706-we-must-bow-out-with-pride-says-vbs-boss-matodzi\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u2018We must bow out with pride,\u2019 says VBS boss Matodzi<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/amabhungane.org\/stories\/200624-next-in-line-vbss-municipal-bribery-network\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">VBS\u2019s municipal bribery network<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/amabhungane.org\/stories\/200624-audit-reports-show-how-vbs-got-its-claws-into-municipalities\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Audit reports show how VBS got its claws into municipalities<\/a><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>*On 11 August 2020 (after publication), Pretoria high court judge Vivian Nhlapi <a href=\"https:\/\/amabhungane.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/JUDGMENT-M-D-MSIZA-VS-DV-T-MOTAU-SC-.pdf\">ruled in Msiza\u2019s favour<\/a> to review and set aside parts of Motau\u2019s Great Bank Heist report that refers to his part in the saga.<\/p>\n<p>It was not a ruling on the facts uncovered by the investigation. Msiza, however, successfully argued that he had not been given a chance to give his version before publication.<\/p>\n<p>Msiza had asked for a more severe judgement than what he got. Motau was not ordered to apologise and the judge stopped short of expunging parts of the report. \u201cThe request for an apology is not one that can in my view be considered in review proceedings,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p>She added that expunging parts of the report would \u201cin my view present problems in that the evidence presented\u201d to Motau during the course of his investigation remained.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt cannot be denied that the evidence unravelled might most probably give answers to the impropriety at VBS or give credence to impropriety \u2026 which might culminate in processes by law enforcement agencies and probably civil proceedings against those found to be involved.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The ANC\u2019s Limpopo treasurer was by all appearances VBS Mutual Bank\u2019s chief political fixer at the bottom rung of government, the municipalities. 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